Character and Conservatism
A discussion unfolds about the complexities of supporting Trump while maintaining conservative values. The idea that Christians should overlook the character of their leaders raises eyebrows, as faith in God should not equate to blind loyalty to any politician. The narrative surrounding the 2020 election is challenged, highlighting the Democrats' struggle to present a moral alternative in a landscape that has shifted significantly since previous elections.In this clip
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The Ben Shapiro Show
The Year Of The Wokescold | Ep. 686
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