Cloud Native Engineering and DevOps | Mischa van den Burg | Beyond Coding Podcast #173

DevOps vs Cloud

Mischa van den Burg explains that in the American market, a DevOps engineer is typically a seasoned sysadmin with coding skills, whereas in Europe, the role often overlaps with cloud engineering. Cloud engineers specialize in services like Azure and tools such as Terraform, making it easier for software engineers to focus on their core tasks without delving into infrastructure details 1. Mischa emphasizes the importance of foundational knowledge in Linux for cloud engineers and the availability of quality educational resources 1.

Compared to the American definition of a DevOps engineer, cloud engineering is a bit lower bar of entry, I think. I think that's easier to learn.

--- Mischa van den Burg

Patrick Akil and Mischa discuss the trade-offs between cloud and DevOps roles, particularly in terms of total cost of ownership and infrastructure needs. Mischa notes that while serverless technologies simplify many processes, there will always be a need for experts who understand the underlying systems 2.

   

Serverless Trend

Serverless technologies are changing the landscape for DevOps engineers. Mischa van den Burg points out that while serverless solutions reduce the total cost of ownership and simplify scaling, they also shift some responsibilities away from DevOps roles 3. He shares his passion for technology and the satisfaction of deploying and scaling systems, despite the challenges 3.

I think many people want, or they think they want to be a developer or a DevOps engineer, but you have to be able to stare at black screens for 8 hours a day, right. With letters on it.

--- Mischa van den Burg

Patrick Akil and Mischa discuss how cloud providers are making it easier to deploy and manage infrastructure, but also question the scalability and cost-effectiveness of serverless solutions for large enterprises 3.