Published Jun 28, 2024

The challenges of building a carbon removal portfolio

Stacy Kauk, head of sustainability at Shopify, delves into the intricacies of constructing a carbon removal portfolio, examining the role of cost curves, the comparison of natural versus engineered systems, and the venture capitalist-like strategies needed to navigate this evolving market. Together with Shayle Kann, they unpack the challenges, market dynamics, and buyer roles crucial to advancing the carbon removal industry.
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  • Cost Curves

    Understanding cost curves is crucial for carbon removal investments, as emphasized by . She explains that buyers like are not just purchasing credits but investing in potential future returns. This involves assessing the likelihood of cost reductions and the risks involved.

    The cost curve is critical. We don't want to be buying something that's going to stay flat because that's not pushing innovation.

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    and Stacy discuss how understanding these curves helps in making informed decisions about which technologies to support, ensuring that investments lead to viable market offerings 1.

       

    Tech Comparisons

    Comparing natural and engineered systems reveals significant differences in cost and scalability. highlights the appeal of technologies that enhance natural systems due to their lower energy requirements and cost-effectiveness. However, the scalability and long-term economic viability of these systems remain uncertain.

    I really like carbon removal that enhances natural systems because they use less energy, which makes them more cost effective.

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    notes that while engineered systems like direct air capture (DAC) offer theoretical scalability, they are often more energy and capital-intensive, presenting a complex decision-making landscape for investors 2.

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