Secular Identity Debate
Richard and Michael discuss the need for a secular identity in a world where tribalism is prevalent. Richard expresses a desire for evidence-based beliefs without the need for visible symbols, while Michael suggests a humanist identity as an alternative to traditional religious gatherings.In this clip
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