Conversations in a Polarized World

Ben Fogle and Steven Bartlett discuss the challenges of having meaningful conversations in a world filled with polarizing topics. They explore the rise of wokery as a counterbalance to racism and xenophobia, and the personal and emotional nature of discussions on politics, COVID, Brexit, and more. Fogle shares his admiration for those who have simplified their lives by dropping off the grid and highlights the importance of basic human needs and genuine connections.