Coffee vs Pre Workout
Echo discusses his addiction to coffee and the benefits of using pre workout as a substitute for a morning buzz before working out. Jocko agrees and adds that using pre workout can lead to a kick ass workout without the need for coffee. They also mention the high quality protein they recommend for post-workout consumption.In this clip
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