Revolution and Patriotism
Bryan argues that revolutions often lead to negative outcomes when they discard established societal norms. Both he and Joe discuss the complexities surrounding Edward Snowden, viewing him as a patriot for exposing unconstitutional actions, despite the emotional backlash he faces. They also touch on the necessity of surveillance methods in ensuring national security, highlighting the tension between privacy and safety.In this clip
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