Surveillance and Control
Abby highlights the extensive surveillance practices of the NSA, suggesting that the agency's data collection could easily be used for retroactive prosecution and implied blackmail. Both discuss the chilling effect this has on independent thought, especially for younger generations who have grown up without privacy. They also touch on the paradox of surveillance, noting that it may ultimately undermine the very systems it seeks to control.In this clip
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Joe Rogan Experience #529 - Abby Martin
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