Published Sep 20, 2019

Joe Rogan Experience #1354 - The Black Keys

Patrick Carney and Dan Auerbach of The Black Keys dive into the transformative challenges facing the music industry, exploring the impacts of social media, streaming services, and personal evolution on their careers. Their candid conversation offers insights into addiction recovery, industry exploitation, and the power of a DIY approach in navigating a rapidly changing digital landscape.
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  • Addiction Battle

    Patrick Carney shares his journey of overcoming a heavy smoking addiction, which he maintained for nearly two decades. He describes the drastic lifestyle change he underwent, quitting cold turkey when expecting his first child, and how it affected his metabolism and weight 1. Patrick reflects on the addictive nature of smoking and the temptation to occasionally indulge, but he acknowledges the importance of willpower in maintaining his smoke-free life 2. He also discusses the peculiar relationship between sleep and smoking, noting how lack of sleep can exacerbate stress and anxiety, while smoking offers a false sense of freedom 3.

    I think if you don't get enough sleep, it's the worst thing for you. I mean, it's when I feel the craziest.

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    Patrick's insights highlight the complex interplay between addiction, lifestyle changes, and personal growth.

       

    Performance Anxiety

    Patrick Carney opens up about the intense stress and anxiety he experiences during performances, despite his love for music. He recounts the pressure of performing in front of large crowds and the mental challenges it poses, likening it to a temporary schizophrenia 4. Patrick shares a vivid memory of a panic attack at Lollapalooza, where exhaustion and stress led to a near breakdown on stage 5. He emphasizes the importance of staying present in the moment and not overthinking, a lesson he learned from Captain Beefheart's philosophy 6.

    If you think about what you're doing, you've already lost the battle.

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    These experiences underscore the mental toll that performing can take, even on seasoned musicians.

       

    Milestones & Growth

    Reflecting on personal milestones, Patrick Carney discusses the impact of success and the anxiety that accompanies it. He notes that despite reaching significant achievements, such as playing at the Troubadour, the pressure to maintain success remains 7. Patrick also touches on the expectations placed on children by their parents, highlighting the fine line between encouragement and pressure 8. Additionally, Dan Auerbach shares nostalgic memories of musical influences and the creative process behind their music, emphasizing the deep connection he shares with Patrick 9.

    I always know no matter what happens, Pat and I can make music because that's just who we are.

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    These reflections reveal the personal and professional growth that comes with navigating the music industry.

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