Published Dec 12, 2017

Joe Rogan Experience #1052 - Mick West

Mick West joins Joe Rogan to dissect misinformation in media and the political landscape, explore the societal challenges and transformative potential of AI, and debunk popular conspiracy theories from 9/11 to flat earth.
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  • 9/11 & JFK

    and explore the intricacies of conspiracy theories surrounding 9/11 and the JFK assassination. Mick highlights the financial motivations behind groups like Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth, noting their reliance on questionable evidence, such as the nano thermite theory 1. Joe shares his skepticism about the JFK assassination, questioning the single bullet theory and suggesting multiple shooters might have been involved 2. Mick agrees that while Oswald's sole involvement isn't proven, the additional shooter theory lacks concrete evidence 3.

    Their take is kind of like the standard of 911 truth. They think that it's controlled demolition and they think they have all this evidence for control demolition, but it's not very good evidence.

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    The conversation underscores the complexity and persistence of these conspiracy theories.

       

    Chemtrails

    The chemtrail conspiracy theory is dissected with scientific clarity by Mick and Joe. Mick explains that believers often misinterpret environmental data, such as aluminum in soil, as evidence of geoengineering, despite the lack of scientific support 4. Joe humorously points out the implausibility of such theories, emphasizing that spraying aluminum would not resemble clouds 5. Mick further elaborates on the misunderstanding of contrails, noting that many people only notice them after hearing about the conspiracy theory 6.

    If you were spraying aluminum in the sky, folks, it would look like aluminum, you dummy. It wouldn't look like a cloud.

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    This discussion highlights the persistence of misinformation and the importance of scientific literacy.

       

    Flat Earth

    Flat Earth theories are scrutinized as Mick and Joe discuss the logical fallacies and scientific evidence that debunk them. Mick points out the absurdity of flat earth explanations, such as the belief that the sun is only 4,000 miles away, and the constant shifting of narratives to fit debunked claims 7. Joe expresses concern over the time wasted on such theories, emphasizing the real mysteries of the world that deserve attention 8. Mick notes that the flat earth theory often begins with exposure to misleading videos, which can lead individuals down a rabbit hole of misinformation 9.

    It's one of the best ones because it's so silly.

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    The conversation serves as a reminder of the importance of critical thinking and evidence-based reasoning.

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