Finding Love, Overcoming Worthlessness
Kate reflects on feeling loved amidst despair, finding transcendence in love despite worthlessness, and the struggle to control narratives in the face of mortality. Krista empathizes with Kate's journey, highlighting the collective trauma of the pandemic and the human need for control in uncertain times.In this clip
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As someone who has trauma around spirituality and religion, how can I understand how spirituality comes into my relationships, especially after experiencing betrayal, rejection, and deconstruction when leaving the church? I feel misunderstood if I meet someone who is religious. Part of this is my own deep connection with spirituality and love of philosophical thinking, but I think some of it is also affected by trauma. Is there anywhere else that I can understand this further if I can't find the specific episode of the podcast that discusses this topic?
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