Engaging with the Other
Titus Kaphar discusses his project, the Vesper project, and how he engages with individuals who have different perspectives. He believes that having conversations with people who don't like him is crucial in finding solutions and understanding in our country. Annette Gordon-Reed shares her similar urge to engage with challenging individuals and the potential for growth and change through conversation.In this clip
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[Unedited] Annette Gordon-Reed and Titus Kaphar with Krista Tippett
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What does it mean when you realize you may have been making a mistake or taken criticism in a negative or defensive way on a project, as discussed in episode 225: Kim Scott | Care Personally, Challenge Directly with Radical Candor? I'm also frustrated about how I acted—responsive and thankful but also annoyed—when Kaitlyn suggested I do something differently. Overall, I have a weird relationship with one manager at work. I'm going to change how I've been acting. I'm just an intern, but it's not obvious; everyone else loves me, and I love them. It's just this one person, and I need to change my attitude. Will this change help her loosen her resistance too?
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