Paradigm Shift
Matt and Krista discuss the paradigm shift happening in American politics and culture, where people are seeking alternatives to the establishment. They explore the impact of disintermediation and the growing discontent with the status quo, as well as the similarities and differences between Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump's messages.In this clip
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