Published Mar 12, 2020

[Unedited] Carlo Rovelli with Krista Tippett

Krista Tippett converses with physicist Carlo Rovelli, who delves into the intersections of science, time, and reality, offering captivating perspectives on time as an emergent phenomenon, the nature of reality through quantum mechanics, and the significant role of curiosity in shaping scientific understanding and human values.
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  • Physics Paradox

    The contradictions between general relativity and quantum mechanics present a fascinating challenge in modern physics. likens this to a rabbi's story where two opposing truths coexist, yet both are valid in their own right 1. He explains that while both theories have been validated by nature, they tell different stories about reality, highlighting our current inability to reconcile them fully 1. This paradox echoes struggle with quantum mechanics, as he sought an overarching objective reality but often found himself revising his own theories 2.

    Science is not about perfection, certitude, certainty. It's an exploration, is a movement and there's a capacity of changing ideas.

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    Rovelli emphasizes that science thrives on exploration and the willingness to change ideas, a notion exemplified by Einstein's openness to revising his thoughts 2.

       

    Dynamic Existence

    Viewing humans as dynamic processes rather than static entities offers a richer understanding of our existence. describes individuals as complex processes, with interactions and internal happenings that far exceed our conscious awareness 3. This perspective aligns with the idea that emotions, while not fundamental physical ingredients, are real and significant aspects of human experience 4.

    My emotions are not the fundamental ingredients of reality. There is nothing like emotions at the level of elementary stuff, elemental physical laws. But this doesn't make them illusory.

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    Rovelli argues that emotions, choices, and interactions are genuine, complex phenomena that contribute to the richness of human life, despite not being fundamental elements of physical reality 4.

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