[Unedited] Devendra Banhart with Krista Tippett

Fear & Wisdom

Krista Tippett and Devendra Banhart explore the Buddhist concept of fear and its potential to lead to wisdom and personal growth. They discuss Pema Chödrön's teachings on embracing fear and groundlessness, highlighting how these feelings can coexist with compassion and courage. Devendra reflects on the comfort found in recognizing shared human experiences of fear and uncertainty, noting, "It's bubbling under the surface, that uncertainty and that fear and that thirst, too, to kind of go on something like a journey of self-discovery." 1 2.

   

Blending Traditions

Devendra Banhart shares his journey of blending Buddhist practices with other spiritual traditions, such as those taught by Ram Dass. He describes his spiritual path as a harmonious integration of teachings from various traditions, emphasizing the beauty of finding common ground. Devendra quotes Ram Dass, "Treat everyone you meet as if they were God in drag," illustrating the profound love and acceptance that transcends religious boundaries 3 4.

   

Groundlessness

The conversation delves into Buddhist notions of impermanence and groundlessness, exploring how these concepts help embrace reality. Krista and Devendra discuss the freedom found in abandoning unrealistic hopes, as Devendra explains, "To think that we can finally get it all together is unrealistic. To seek for some lasting security is futile." 5 6. This acceptance of life's inherent uncertainty is seen as a tool for navigating daily challenges.