Published Feb 26, 2019

CIA vs DOD: A Conversation with David Oakley

Army officer and former CIA intelligence officer David Oakley delves into the complex, evolving dynamics between the CIA and the Department of Defense post-9/11, discussing tactical vs. strategic intelligence and the militarization of U.S. foreign policy.
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  • Post-9/11 Shift

    The relationship between the CIA and DoD has significantly evolved, especially after 9/11. explains that the CIA's role has shifted from long-term strategic analysis to more immediate, tactical support for military operations, which has led to increased subordination to the DoD 1. This shift is partly driven by policymakers' desire for quick results, often for political gain 2.

    The idea of turning the CIA into a push button, gee whiz, let's see the bad guy blow up. And that makes me happy.

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    Oakley argues that this change has fundamentally altered the CIA's independence and its original mission 1.

       

    War on Terror Impact

    The War on Terror has had profound impacts on intelligence operations. notes that the global battlefield concept has disrupted traditional intelligence collection methods, causing friction between the CIA and DoD 3. This shift has also led to the evolution of new roles within the CIA, such as targeters, which did not exist before 9/11 4.

    If the whole world is a potential battlefield, then there's no such thing as doing standard human intelligence collection anymore.

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    Oakley highlights that these changes have sometimes undermined long-term intelligence efforts and strained relationships with allies 3.

       

    Intelligence Preparation

    Intelligence preparation of the battlefield has become a contentious issue. discusses how the militarization of foreign policy has given combatant commanders significant influence in shaping global affairs 5. This dominance has raised concerns about the balance of power between military and intelligence agencies.

    This role of the combatant commanders shaping the environment has given them kind of a dominant position in foreign affairs.

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    Oakley emphasizes that this shift has led to a broader militarization of intelligence, affecting the CIA's traditional roles and responsibilities 6.

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