‘Succession’ S3E5: “Retired Janitors of Idaho”

Shiv's Struggles

Shiv Roy's position within the family and company is increasingly precarious. Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald discuss how Shiv's attempts to secure her place in the power dynamics often backfire, as Logan Roy, her father, consistently rejects those who seek something from him 1. Despite her efforts, Shiv finds herself sidelined, as seen when Logan humiliates her by dismissing her claim to a board seat 2. This ongoing struggle raises questions about her capabilities and whether she is heading towards an existential crisis within the Roy family.

What does Siobhan have? And I think what could be interesting about the show is, is that character heading for a kind of existential crisis, the likes of which we haven't seen on the show.

--- Andy Greenwald

Her challenges highlight the complex dynamics of ambition and rejection in the Roy empire.

   

Tom & Greg

The evolving relationship between Tom Wambsgans and Greg Hirsch is a fascinating subplot in the Roy family saga. Andy Greenwald notes Tom's descent from perceived power to a state of uncertainty, as he grapples with the transactional nature of his marriage to Shiv and his role in the family 3. Meanwhile, Greg's potential inheritance from his grandfather adds another layer to his character, explaining some of his past behaviors and hinting at future developments 4. This dynamic underscores the theme of ambition and survival within the Roy family.

It's phenomenal performance. It's also that deep feeling of, like, what are we actually doing? What do we actually have and hold here?

--- Andy Greenwald

Their interactions reflect the broader themes of power and vulnerability.