Pitching Ideas
Catherine shares her struggle with pitching ideas and the lingering fear of not being heard. Both she and Julia reflect on the tendency to downplay their contributions, often starting with apologies. This conversation highlights the challenges women face in creative spaces, revealing a shared vulnerability and the quest for validation in their artistic expressions.In this clip
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What does it mean when you realize you may have been making a mistake or taken criticism in a negative or defensive way on a project, as discussed in the episode Sheila Heen — How to Navigate Hard Conversations, the Subtle Art of Apologizing, and More and the clip Effective Apologies? How should I handle a situation where I feel frustrated with a manager who rarely gives me the space to explain and often asserts herself during presentations? I'm proud that I recognize I need to adjust to her behavior, but will this change help her loosen her resistance too? Why am I feeling like I've had a negative impression on everyone and done a horrible job this summer, even though I'm getting a return offer?
How should I handle a situation where I feel frustrated with a manager who rarely gives me the space to explain and often asserts herself during presentations? I'm proud that I recognize I need to adjust to her behavior, but will this change help her loosen her resistance too?
I'm also frustrated about how I acted—responsive and thankful but also annoyed. Kaitlyn suggested I do something differently, but overall, I have a weird relationship with this one manager at work. I'm going to change how I've been acting. I'm just an intern, but it's not obvious; everyone else loves me, and I love them. It's just this one person, and I need to change my attitude. She rarely gives me the space to explain and often asserts herself in the middle of presentations without letting me continue. It's very different from everyone else there. While it's useful in some ways, it's also frustrating. Will changing my attitude help her loosen her resistance too?